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and this is weapons

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but this is also a time when the world

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is changing so it's a time when there's

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this momentary openness within Russia

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from a country that was so close to that

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war with the United States and you

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thought oh what a great idea I'm gonna

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go there and start exploring the UFO

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topic well yeah pretty much that I mean

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there had been that story on Oswald that

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sort of I stuck in the back of my head

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jock valet Dr Jacques valet had been to

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Russia I think it was in 1990 he wrote a

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book called The Cosmic samas dot which

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basically psalmistat is an uh under

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underground way of communicating so

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people who studied UFOs during the

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Soviet era had to be very discreet in

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communicating about their investigations

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because officially the the USSR had said

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had decreed UFOs are bogus it was made

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up by American imperialists they're

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trying to distract us pay no attention

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to it that was their official position

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as we were to learn their actual

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position was much different valet had

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been there investigating and an incident

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called the baronash where aliens landed

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in this big city walked around these

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gigantic alien robots it made news all

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over the world mostly a western

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journalist made fun of it but I thought

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you know that that rang a bell with me

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that there might be something to it in

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November 1989 Soviet attitudes on UFOs

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became abundantly clear the official

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news agency task reported on the alleged

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Landing of an alien ship in the city of

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veronese a 10-hour train ride north of

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Moscow according to Tas tall aliens and

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a robot exited the spaceship walked

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around the park and then left the story

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was reported in the New York Times Wall

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Street Journal and on network news none

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of these major media Outlets had their

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own reporters on the scene so most chose

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the approach they normally take with UFO

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story earlier tonight the CBS Evening

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News with Dan Rather included a report

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about the alleged alien landing at

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varonish rather Riley commented on the

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Soviet claim is about 10 foot tall

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aliens walking around a Russian Park the

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CBS newsman added don't believe

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everything you read in tasks within days

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the veronese story assumed almost

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surreal proportions American headlines

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chortled about Pinhead aliens follow-up

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stories claimed that the only witnesses

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to the landing were young children and

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because the tall aliens described were

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different from the usual short bug-eyed

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variety Americans hear about it was

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smugly assumed the Russians must be

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wrong prominent astrophysicist Jacques

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valet was one of few westerners to

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personally investigate the case by

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meeting with Russian sources

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firsthandis there were many cases not

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just the case that made the newspapers

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not just the case it was reported by

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tasks with the the the the school

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students the Witnesses were not just

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kids they were 18 19 year old kids very

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articulate and obviously they had seen

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something they were physical traces

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there but there were many other cases

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over a thousand Witnesses in all in the

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city of rawanish varnish is a large city

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it's over a million people what they

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showed me was you know the film and the

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physical evidence they told me about the

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cases in which for example an object

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hovered near a nuclear power plant in

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varnish and a beam from that object

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melted the asphalt there and that's what

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they are studying now the story

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Americans read was much different from

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what the witnesses say happened at

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varonish it was an odd case because

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instead of just a landing of a

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spacecraft you got actual like beings

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that come out which is one of these

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Rarities when you have tons of people

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talking about being they look like

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robots in Russia yeah 10 foot tall

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robots and um and actually there were a

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lot of witnesses most of them were young

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people but they were not just little

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tiny kids they were teenagers it was a

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really interesting case yeah so along

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the lines those lines I started reaching

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out to see what existed in terms of

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Russian files in Western sources there's

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something called fbis it's a report

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that's put out by the CIA and they they

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summarize Foreign Press accounts and

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actually they had quite a few stories

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from Russian media that they did they

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had translated into English and they

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send out to intelligence agencies and a

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lot of the information was pretty

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intriguing so I knew somebody in Russia

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had been studying UFOs and collecting